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على فكرة أنا ارثوزكسى صميم من ابراشية عريقة هى ابراشية أسيوط
واتربيت على مبادئ شيخ المطارنة الانبا ميخائيل
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Be honest.
No. You are not. Orthodoxy is not a slogan but a life that does not involve criticising hierarchs unless their faith is unorthodox. Please let me know what fundamental faith error did Anba Shenouda commit.
As you mentioned the very graceful, honorable and reverend Anba Michael, please go and express your views to him and I guarantee your excommunication if you do not go back on your ideas. Ever heard about Atef Aziz , the Pentecostal heretic and how d=he tried to sway people from orthodoxy in Assiout ? Excommunicated with everybody who endorsed him.
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لكن سفرى خارج مصر جعلنى اتعلم من العالم المتقدم شيئا جديدا
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Apparently you learnt the worst of the Western culture, which is the lack of reference and lack of respect.
- I live in the USA and lived in Europe the better part of my life, in a liberal state , yet it did not take from my Orthodoxy.
Trashing the hierarchs does not make your views modern or western, but rather ignorant.
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ان شخص البطرك لا يمنحة الضؤ الأخضر ليفعل كما يشاء ولا يمنحة صفة الألوهية والعصمة من الخطأ
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No, it does not, and our hierachs do not claim such thing as to infallability. They have their father of confession as well.
So, please do not present this idea as a fixed and undisputed pillar of Orthodoxy because it is NOT.
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كنت اتمنى لو ان قرآتك للتاريخ القبطى تكون حيادية فكم من بطرق كان خارج على التعاليم الرسولية
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Which COPTIC patriarch was a heretic ?
Please indicate when and where and in the time of which Pope did the Church embrace any heresy. I am only concerned about FAITH and so is the Church
. Please reply, and let me know when, because in the one incident I can think of it has been dealt with by the Church itself, according to the Holy Tradition.
Do not throw stones if you can't back up your data.
I bet you are a corrupt heretic who tries to draw an imaginary picture of the church throughout the ages to meet your corrupt ends.
but it is not your mistake, it is the mistake of the one who opened this topic (although I am greatly disappointed in him, a rather clever person) and those who endorse your agenda on this site.
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أن سلمنا بمبدأك نكون قد تحولنا الى أفغانستان الجديدة وحكم الملالى ولنقل قبطستان أو الأصح عبطستان لا اجد فى ردك شئ مهم
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What is my principle ? What are we talking about ? Before you embark on conclusions from my statements please let me know what is MY principle?
I will make it easier for you: My principle is:Separation of religion and state, and so is the principle of the Coptic Church along history
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إن تصريحات البابا السياسية كثيرا ما تسبب حرجا للأحرار من الأقباط لان ابسط تعليق هو رأيسكم ينفى لذا فأنتم كاذبون
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Which statements by the Pope ? And who are the free Copts...please name a few .... it will be interesting to know how the Pope's sermons or anything embarass those. In fact, the only people who embarass me personally are those who have made themselves speaker on behalf of Copts. I did not see any one endorse them.
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البابا يبدأ حديثة الصحفى التليفزيونى دائما ب
باسم الأله الواحد الذى نعبدة جميعا
واننا جميعا نعبد الها واحدا
وهذا مخالف للتعاليم الدينية المسيحية كرجل دين نحن لا نعبد الها واحدا
ولماذا لا يبدأ بالتثليث
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He never did say that. Review it again and you will find diplomacy without concessions.
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موقف البابا من أبونا زكريا بطرس هو نقطة سوداء فى تاريخ الكنيسة
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Why don;t we take Abouna Zakaria's view for it, when he said that my relation with His Holiness is above any fights, confessing his allegance to His Holiness .