الأنبا شنودة وأحداث الإسكندرية الأخيرة

[El-Basha]

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I Totally agree, The Church is not paying any attention to the COPTS needs

It is very sad. People (COPTS) were expecting more from church leaders in these hard times

[knowjesus_knowlove]

نفس المعضلة ...
فى الوقت الذى يتوقع فيه بعض الأقباط من قداسة البابا أن يتحدث كزعيم سياسى فى أمر يستدعى التكلم فى الماديات الواقعة أمام العين من قتل وحرق وتدمير كنائس وممتلكات الأقباط فيصدمون عندما يجدونه يتكلم عن الروحانيات كرجل دين روحانى ....

فمن الملوم هنا ؟؟؟؟

نفس الأمر حدث فى ذلك الموضوع

http://www.copts.net/forum/showthrea...D3%ED%C7%D3%EC

[TINA_bent_yaso3]

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Totally agree, The Church is not paying any attention to the COPTS needs

Dear , do you know what,, church can not do anything ,,and I do not want our pope to talk or to say anything , becuase i do not want to embaress him with the goverments'dogs.

It is very sad. People (COPTS) were expecting more from church leaders in these hard times[/COLOR]

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Why do you want the church to do everything , if you really want somethinh to happen ,, you start it ,and other christians will finish it ,,we have to organize ourselves
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[El-Basha]

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Dear , do you know what,, church can not do anything ,,and I do not want our pope to talk or to say anything , becuase i do not want to embaress him with the goverments'dogs.[SIZE="5"]

Dear Tina,

My view is this, I was expecting more reactions from the church leaders, it does not need to be in a speech or in a public forum

…if our church leaders or the Pope are unable to talk because of the Government's Dogs. …then let the others talk ….

If Copts are prosecuted and churches are attacked a week before Easter you could avoid the government dogs and visit your Great City of Alexandria and conduct your Easter prayer in Alexandria with your sons and daughter who are scared and frightened.

There are many ways to deliver your anger and your sadness other than public speeches. This not only for the Pope but all Bishops, Priests & Decanes

Why do you want the church to do everything , if you really want somethinh to happen ,, you start it ,and other christians will finish it ,,we have to organize ourselves

I do not want to say what I’ve done, but I will give one example about how negative we became in the Church since you are directing a question to me.

I’ve tried to organise some media outlets from the Coptic web site, to be given to Copts every Sunday in the Country where I leave (outside Egypt) to let the people know what is happening in Egypt. This was outside the church in the canteen area
The priest of my Church which he is a very good person and a very good friend of mine refused to distribute this news letters after the church, because our Bishop said no….. ??? I’m still printing these news letters and give them outside the church as drugs…

Of course I agree the Church leaders are only responsible for Spiritual life and they are not required to be talking on our behave, but when the body is in pain you need to fell this pain and sorrow because we are one body.
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we have to organize ourselves

I agree with you we have to organize ourselves better

thanks for writing god bless

I'm not sure what do you mean but....God Bless you all

[The_Lonley_Wolf]

becuase i do not want to embaress him with the goverments'dogs

u call askin' the regime about our rights is "embarressing"???!!!

[The_Lonley_Wolf]

فمن الملوم هنا ؟؟؟؟

انت عاوز تقول ان البابا مالوش انه يتكلم فى امور غير روحية كالمطالبة بحقوقنا مثلا؟؟

كلام تمام بس لما هو راجل روحى حسبما تقول كان ايه حشره من البداية فى الشئون الدنيوية الفانية؟؟

ماينفعش يتدخل فى امور سياسية و يحرم كمثال المسيحيين من التناول الذى هو مهم جدا فى العقيدة المسيحية ان لم يكن صميمها بسبب تأييد سياسى بحت لسيادة الرئيس و لما يتزنق يطلع يقول انا راجل بتاع أرواح ياجماعة ماليش دعوة بالسياسة

[knowjesus_knowlove]

إقرأ الرابط الذى وضعته بالأعلى بروية وتأنى لتفهم ماذا أقصد يا أبو الديابة

[The_Lonley_Wolf]

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