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[amoni]

Hey Brothers and sisters,

Yesterday in one of my classes i was having some discussion about religion, and here comes that guy from the back row and he was yelling, i can show you how all the religions are no where, and humans are humans by themselves, i was

[amoni]

I was like no way, how can u do that,

he said i can prove to you, that ur God is about sextual desires, i was like how, he said
well mariam, if God creat us humans and he created special body parts so we can get babies, why God did creat it as joy, why he did not creat it as agreement, a husband tell his wife let us get kids and he will get kids, without that long process, i was silent, what do u guys think?

another depate with athiests?
they use logic , but we use Faith that we recived from the Apostolos, any way I can use Logic in religion lol
the Answering is:
Humans as animals were created from Earth the Differewnt in thinking coming from the Spirit of God that our Father Adam Recived from God
so we share the same cells and the same system of the Body
so we can say we have the same system in multiplying
and it depends too on the size of the baby that will born, Like the Elephant female takes about year and half Pregnant, and human females take about 9 months
and Sex is not for Joy but it is for multiplying
the joy part is just to encourage for multiply
but just in the marriage system
there is a good book for Bishop Anba Moussa the Bishop of youth,it's name Youth and Pure Living
u will find it on this web site:
http://www.youthbishopric.com/download/Downloads.asp

[amoni]

Hmmmmm Saweres let us talk serious

God wana encourge us to multply by joy hmm?? that does not go through in my mind, and we do not care a bout animals now, we are talking about humans my friend

So if we did not have that joy we wont have kids then?? that is just great,
U know after what u said i am kinda with that guy in that point but still, i amnot atheist, but he was saying that god has own ways of multplying, forexample the virgin Mary
I know that she is holly and God had to do this so it will fullfill the old testament, but why did not god made all creation come out of the holly spirit, then we do not have to baptizem (el ma3modya ya3ne) so we got an easy way, and there will be no adultry no more, because the holly spirit control everything

What do u think?

المشاركة الأصلية بواسطة saweres

another depate with athiests?
they use logic , but we use Faith that we recived from the Apostolos, any way I can use Logic in religion lol
the Answering is:
Humans as animals were created from Earth the Differewnt in thinking coming from the Spirit of God that our Father Adam Recived from God
so we share the same cells and the same system of the Body
so we can say we have the same system in multiplying
and it depends too on the size of the baby that will born, Like the Elephant female takes about year and half Pregnant, and human females take about 9 months
and Sex is not for Joy but it is for multiplying
the joy part is just to encourage for multiply
but just in the marriage system
there is a good book for Bishop Anba Moussa the Bishop of youth,it's name Youth and Pure Living
u will find it on this web site:
http://www.youthbishopric.com/download/Downloads.asp

the Freedom in Choice is the Point mariam
and this question remind me of an Old question said:
why God created the tree of knowledge of good and evil?
God created the tree and Gave Adam and Eve the Choice
God gave us the way to multiply and Gave us the Freedom to Choose if it will be in Marriage or in Adultry
this is to make God justice infinite to Give us the choice between Good and Evil
the Holy Virgin Mary was a unique case can't be repeated
he said special body parts lol
what makes it special???
the body needs Lungs, Heart and Lever more than those ( special parts )
what I ment by the joy is in Marriage not outside it
it's like a test of the Freedom would we Accept it or not?

[sammy]

I am a new member in this English forum
My English is not as good as yours but i'll try to explain my point of view...
sex is not bad by itself, it is like saying let us have a children... only some people, actually most of people cant express themselves orally accurat and difinit, so it is sex as normal act such as saying let us have kids...
Also, having sex as randum election for the best result is not like saying let us have children by the best of me and the best of you between man and women, so it is randumly selection under God's rules...

[amoni]

So Sammy What do u think about ppl who said that jesus christ has sex with Mary magdaline?
I know that we are against them, but in the same time, they say Sex is not bad right? because u produce kids, but in the same time they say jesus himself had sex too,

I do not believe in that either, but i just hear between now and then about these ideas


and by the way ur English is fine

[yaweeka]

What do u think about ppl who said that jesus christ has sex with Mary magdaline?

MMMMM
what do I personally think about them?

the same way I think about people who say the earth is flat

i.e. superficial people. they need to grow up and look at the world from a different prespective other than their private parts

and by the way: The Da Vinci code is nothing but a childish literature

[fayoumy]

and by the way: The Da Vinci code is nothing but a childish literature


Guys,

For an excellent book that exposes the evil lies of Dan Brown's The Da Vinci Code , please read
The Truth Behind The da Vinci Code
It is very well written, very easy to read, and supported by solid evidence, and deep research.
The book is published by Harvest House Publishers.
ISBN 0736914390

[fayoumy]

Forgot to mention the name of the author...Richard Abanes..an authority on religious issues

[amoni]

Fayoumy

i wont through 12 box on the floor for that book, it has a nice cover but it is not that great from inside,

i am reading a book called "the story" really nice, and it explains the bible in simple terms

it gives you an idea of general point of view about the bible


God bless you

Nasa Girl

I don't like the general ideas kinds of books , it reminds me of what some people tried to do , to make the 4 gospels in one book, I prefer to take the info from it's living source , the Bible, it's so simple and so clear ,
GBU all

[ألمتوحد بن إسحق]

If I were you NasaGirl, i would do the following. Ask that person a simple question:
What differnet does it make to you, if there is no joy to sex? If there is no joy in partners relationship, and getting children is only by agrements, would you agree to have children thru a lower.. the whole situation does not make sense.. I got to go I will come back..

[amoni]

When you come back u will find that answer

i posted that topic a year ago
and i already passed that class and i am now in more hell classes.
anyways
He said
he would agree to have childern by just talking, but in the same time, ppl use it for sin, if u know what i mean

it is like when great scientist discvoer something very very important, but in 4 years, they use his invention to destroy other countries,

i look at it this way
but in the same time i kinda of agree with him

let me ask you question
if u believe in love between the opposite sex
was there is love between adam and eve?
i think god created them and they found themselves this way, so they kinda of agreed on God's well and what happened
is agreement not love,
so there is no concept of love between the oppsoite sex
something else, if God cursed adam and eve out of edin, why did he put joy in getting the kids, while he cursed eve with hardships in getting them and hardships for adam to get his food


lots of questions

NasaGirl , I think you are misleaded , would you please define love?!!!
Love is a compenition of alot of things ,Adam and Ever , were so close , they were together , never seperated , you can't say they didn't love eachothers, reasearchers says, that any man and woman pass together alot of hard times, they fall in love , even if one of them were so ugly lol, but in their case , they were totally in Love , they don't have to meet then date , then ...etc , they were married , one body , how can you judge this wasn't love?
please reconsider your thoughts