دكتور جون كارى يحض المسيحيين فى الدول الاسلامية على كشف اضطهادهم

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Christians, who shared many values with Muslims, such as respect for the family, must speak out against the persecution they often encountered in Muslim countries.

"During my time as archbishop, this was my constant refrain: that the welcome we have given to Muslims in the West, with the accompanying freedom to worship freely and build their mosques, should be reciprocated in Muslim lands," he said.


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Muslim culture has contributed little for centuries, says Carey

26/03/2004)
Lord Carey, the former Archbishop of Canterbury, launched a trenchant attack on Islamic culture last night, saying it was authoritarian, inflexible and under-achieving.

In a speech that will upset sensitive relations between the faiths, he denounced moderate Muslims for failing unequivocally to condemn the "evil" of suicide bombers.

He attacked the "glaring absence" of democracy in Muslim countries, suggested that they had contributed little of major significance to world culture for centuries and criticised the Islamic faith.

Dr Carey's comments, in a lecture in Rome, are the most forthright by a senior Church leader. He was speaking on the eve of a seminar of Christian and Muslim scholars in New York, led by his successor as archbishop, Dr Rowan Williams.

He acknowledged that most Muslims were peaceful people who should not be demonised. But he said that terrorist acts such as the September 11 attacks on America and the Madrid bombings raised difficult questions.

Contrasting western democracy with Islamic societies, he said: "Throughout the Middle East and North Africa we find authoritarian regimes with deeply entrenched leadership, some of which rose to power at the point of a gun and are retained in power by massive investment in security forces.

"Whether they are military dictatorships or traditional sovereignties, each ruler seems committed to retaining power and privilege."

Dr Carey said he was not convinced by arguments that Islam and democracy were incompatible, citing the example of Turkey.

He urged Europeans and Americans to resist claims that Islamic states were morally, spiritually and culturally superior.

"Although we owe much to Islam handing on to the West many of the treasures of Greek thought, the beginnings of calculus, Aristotelian thought during the period known in the West as the dark ages, it is sad to relate that no great invention has come for many hundred years from Muslim countries," he said.

"This is a puzzle, because Muslim peoples are not bereft of brilliant minds. They have much to contribute to the human family and we look forward to the close co-operation that might make this possible.

"Yes, the West has still much to be proud of and we should say so strongly. We should also encourage Muslims living in the West to be proud of it and say so to their brothers and sisters living elsewhere."

Dr Carey said that, while Christianity and Judaism had a long history of often painful critical scholarship, Islamic theology was only now being challenged to become more open to examination.

"In the case of Islam, Mohammed, acknowledged by all in spite of his religious greatness to be an illiterate man, is said to have received God's word direct, word by word from angels, and scribes recorded them later.

"Thus believers are told, because they have come direct from Allah, they are not to be questioned or revised.

"In the first few centuries of the Islamic era, Islamic theologians sought to meet the challenge this implied, but during the past 500 years critical scholarship has declined, leading to strong resistance to modernity."

Dr Carey said that moderate Muslims must "resist strongly" the taking over of Islam by radical activists "and to express strongly, on behalf of the many millions of their co-religionists, their abhorrence of violence done in the name of Allah".

He said: "We look to them to condemn suicide bombers and terrorists who use Islam as a weapon to destabilise and destroy innocent lives. Sadly, apart from a few courageous examples, very few Muslim leaders condemn clearly and unconditionally the evil of suicide bombers who kill innocent people.

"We need to hear outright condemnation of theologies that state that suicide bombers are martyrs and enter a martyr's reward."

Christians, who shared many values with Muslims, such as respect for the family, must speak out against the persecution they often encountered in Muslim countries.

"During my time as archbishop, this was my constant refrain: that the welcome we have given to Muslims in the West, with the accompanying freedom to worship freely and build their mosques, should be reciprocated in Muslim lands," he said.

Dr Carey, who initiated several top-level meetings between Christian and Islamic leaders during his time at Lambeth Palace, urged the West to tackle the Palestinian problem and other inequalities in the Muslim world.

"It will do us little good if the West simply believes that the answer is to put an end to Osama bin Laden. Rather, we must put an end to conditions, distortions and misinformation that create him and his many emulators."

Iqbal Sacranie, the secretary-general of the Muslim Council of Britain, said that Dr Carey's comments "saddened" him.

"He should be well aware that mainstream Muslim organisations have consistently condemned terrorist acts but their statements are often ignored by the media," he said.

"Dr Carey is trampling on a very sensitive area by referring to the Koran and the traditions of the Prophet."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...equestid=84869

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[stavro]

I actually speak about the persecution of the Copts whenever I have a chance to. Even if you have a small job or you are the CEO of a company, it is important to make people know that we are not arabs, there are christians in EGypt, and theat they are facing persecution as no one ever faced before.

I encourage everybody to do the same. We have the advantage of living in a free world, our bretheren in Egypt don;t have the same privilage and we are not put outside of Egypt by God to search for a better life standard but to search for salvation of others and to work for the Copts.

By that I don;t mean to promote violence, because I believe it is against christian values, but we have to oppose muslim lies about being the religion of peace .....

[ELSHIEKH]

كبير اساقفة بريطانيا السابق يهاجم الاسلام ويتهمه بعدم الاسهام في الثقافة العالمية


2004/03/27

قال ان العقل المسلم يرفض الحداثة وتوقف منذ 500 عام عن تقديم الجديد
لندن ـ القدس العربي :
هاجم كبير اساقفة الكنيسة الانغليكانية السابق جون كيري الثقافة الاسلامية، وشن حملة شعواء علي الاسلام. وقال في محاضرة القاها في مدينة روما تحت عنوان الثقافة الاسلامية لم تساهم في التاريخ انه غير مقتنع بكل النقاش الذي يتحدث عن توافق الاسلام مع قيم الديمقراطية. واعتبر كيري الثقافة الاسلامية غير مرنة وشمولية ورجعية.
وجاءت كلمة كيري عشية مؤتمر للحوار الاسلامي ـ المسيحي سيعقد في نيويورك، والذي سيتم تحت رعاية خلفه الدكتور روان ويليامز.
وقال كيري في خطابه الذي سيجد صدي في اسرائيل ان العالم الاسلامي والانظمة الاسلامية فشلت فشلا ذريعا في شجب الشياطين، الذين يقومون بالعمليات الانتحارية .
وانتقد كيري غياب الديمقراطية في العالم الاسلامي، وقال ان المسلمين لم يشاركوا لقرون في الثقافة العالمية، وانتقد الاسلام. وبعد هذه الهجمة الشرسة قال الاسقف المعروف بمواقفه اليمينية، والذي اثار جدلا عندما زار جنوب السودان الذي يشهد حربا مع المتمردين، ان المسلمين بشكل عام مسالمون ويجب الامتناع عن اهانتهم. وقال ان هجمات ايلول (سبتمبر) والهجمات علي مدريد تثير الكثير من الاسئلة الصعبة.
وعندما قارن الديمقراطية الغربية بالاسلام قال ان معظم الدول الاسلامية تحكمها انظمة شمولية، وبعض هذه الانظمة وصلت للسلطة من خلال البندقية، وسواء كانت الانظمة ديكتاتورية عسكرية او تقليدية فكلها تحاول التمسك بالسلطة والحفاظ علي وضعها. ودعا اوروبا وامريكا لرفض الرأي الذي يقول ان الدول الاسلامية متفوقة روحيا واخلاقيا علي الغرب.
وردد كيري نفس التعبيرات الكلاسيكية بأن الغرب مدين للمسلمين بحفظهم للثقافة الاغريقية وفلسفة ارسطو ونقلها اليهم، مشيرا انه من المحزن ان الثقافة الاسلامية لم تقدم اي شيء للعالم منذ ذلك الوقت . وقال كيري ان هذا الامر مثير للدهشة لان المسلمين اذكياء ونتطلع للتعاون معهم.
ودعا كيري الغرب لتأكيد تفوقه والافتخار، وتشجيع المسلمين في الغرب للقيام بهذا، واخبار اشقائهم واخوانهم بذلك. ويري كيري ان اليهودية والمسيحية لديهما تاريخ طويل ومؤلم في الدراسات النقدية، الا ان الاسلام بدأ من جديد يتعرض لتحدي الفحص والنقد.
واشار كيري ان المسلمين قيل لهم انه لا يمكن المجادلة في كلام الله . وقال ان المسلمين قاموا بمحاولات نقدية في القرون الاولي من الاسلام، الا ان العقل المسلم توقف منذ 500 عام عن تقديم الجديد وقام برفض الحداثة.
ودعا كيري الحداثيين المسلمين لرفض احتكار الدين وارتهانه من قبل جماعات متطرفة، ودعا كيري الاصلاحيين المسلمين لشجب العمليات الانتحارية . وقال ان عددا قليلا من القيادات المسلمة قامت بشجب العملـــيات هذه بصراحة وشجاعة.
ودعا كيري المسيحيين للحديث عن الاضطهاد الذي يتعرضون له في الدول الاسلامية. وقال عندما كنت اسقفا طالبت بمعاملة بالمثل من الدول الاسلامية، ففي الوقت الذي نستقبل فيه المسلمين ونسمح لهم ببناء المساجد عليهم ايضا القيام بالمثل في ما يتعلق بالمسيحيين في دولهم .
واكد كيري ان القضاء علي اسامة بن لادن ليس كافيا بل يجب القضاء علي الجذور التي تؤدي لظهور امثاله، مشيرا الي ضرورة حل القضية الفلسطينية. وقال المجلس الاسلامي البريطاني في تصريحات له ان ما قاله الاسقف السابق محزن، فهو يعرف اكثر من غيره ان القيادات التي تمثل التيار الرئيسي في المجتمعات المسلمة شجبت علنا العمليات الانتحارية . وقال المجلس ان كيري يقوم بتجاوز الحدود عندما يحاول الهجوم علي مصادر الاسلام.



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