The Terror in the Bible

[Ibrahim Al Copti]

Dear "no way"

I know you trying so hard

I will help you to prove what you are trying to prove

You need the following to make a solid case:
1) to prove that these old testament wars were universally and timelessly oriented
i.e. Ordered by YHWA to fight all non-Jews for all times

2) to prove that they are meant to spread the Israelis belief and faith by sword, and force other nations to convert to Judaism

3) to prove that are morally unjustifiable

4) to explain out the similar scenario in Muslim jihad which is oriented towards all non-believers globally to submit them to the rule of Islam

Something more I need to know
Are you displaying these verses to disprove jihad in Islam or to present a similar case for Judaism ?

I don't understand your logic

Your are a pacifist or just neutralizing Muslim Jihad with old testament wars ?

one last thing, why I don't see you response about me accusing you of lying about Salim being a grown man or just a kid
in this thread


http://copts.net/forum/showpost.php?...3&postcount=10
there is "no where to run" .. from me

[No Where To Run]

المشاركة الأصلية بواسطة Ibrahim Al Copti

Dear "no way"

I know you trying so hard

I will help you to prove what you are trying to prove

You need the following to make a solid case:
1) to prove that these old testament wars were universally and timelessly oriented
i.e. Ordered by YHWA to fight all non-Jews for all times

2) to prove that they are meant to spread the Israelis belief and faith by sword, and force other nations to convert to Judaism

3) to prove that are morally unjustifiable

4) to explain out the similar scenario in Muslim jihad which is oriented towards all non-believers globally to submit them to the rule of Islam

Something more I need to know
Are you displaying these verses to disprove jihad in Islam or to present a similar case for Judaism ?

I don't understand your logic

Your are a pacifist or just neutralizing Muslim Jihad with old testament wars ?

one last thing, why I don't see you response about me accusing you of lying about Salim being a grown man or just a kid
in this thread


http://copts.net/forum/showpost.php?...3&postcount=10
there is "no where to run" .. from me

Dear hima

i wanna explain to you there is verses in Bible or as you said old testament there is differnt between old testament and new testament??????//

otherwise , you talking about terror in Quran all the time

so what you call those verses in bible ?

just peaceful war or what?

by the way my friend i wrote my reply but the asmin remove it

[Ibrahim Al Copti]

Dear "no way"

Dear hima

Please try to keep the distance

my name is Ibrahim

you talking about terror in Quran all the time

so what you call those verses in bible ?

Did u actually read my previous reply
quoting

1) to prove that these old testament wars were universally and timelessly oriented
i.e. Ordered by YHWA to fight all non-Jews for all times

2) to prove that they are meant to spread the Israelis belief and faith by sword, and force other nations to convert to Judaism

3) to prove that are morally unjustifiable

4) to explain out the similar scenario in Muslim jihad which is oriented towards all non-believers globally to submit them to the rule of Islam

And I add one more critical point you raised

u said

there is differnt between old testament and new testament??????

yes there is a huge difference

The old testament for us as Christians is a promise not fulfilled. People were dealing with God as a stranger not a savior
it is a testament of laws without a savior

that is a huge difference

the prophets of the old testament predicted and told of that difference

that the Lord is hidden and veiled in OT

Isa 59:2 but your iniquities have made a separation between you and your God, and your sins have hidden his face from you so that he does not hear.

But, He is not going to stay the same way for the New testament

Eze 39:28 Then they shall know that I am the LORD their God, because I sent them into exile among the nations and then assembled them into their own land. I will leave none of them remaining among the nations anymore.
Eze 39:29 And I will not hide my face anymore from them, when I pour out my Spirit upon the house of Israel, declares the Lord GOD."

Isa 45:15 Verily thou art a God that hidest thyself, O God of Israel, the Saviour.

so i hope u can see the difference
People without salvation or actual relation with God ...
only the law

Muhammad actually got it backwards
he started peaceful, because of his Christian background and ended violent to a larger scale than the OT, but even without the moral background of the OT.

I am still waiting for a thoughtful response from you concerning these points

God bless

by the way
please do not lie and tell that

by the way my friend i wrote my reply but the asmin remove it

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