الى متى يُفرض علينا الخنوع ؟؟؟؟؟

[contra mundum]

In reply to para'o

الدنيا قامت على أسامة أنور عكاشة علشان قال رأيه فى أنسان حقير (عمرو بن العاص)
وهو حقا هكذا
وأحنا بنعمل كدة مع أى حد يقول كلمة حق فى أنتقاد البابا أو المطران أو الكاهن
ليه هم دول ملايكة؟

Wow. This one is loaded. First, you are totally off the point and I am not gonna discuss Amr Ibn El-3as here because it does not concern me. I am concerned with crap said and propagated in this topic and should be refuted.

1- When you compare what happened with Osama Anwar 3okasha when he criticised Ibn el-3as , saying that he is indeed a lowly and vicious person, with the same response you get when you criticise the Pope, it implies that the Pope and the hierarchs are in your opinion lowly as well, an allegation that I find outrageous and should prompt fury among Orthodox, if there are any on this site.
To defend that would give weight to your crap, something you and your words are unworthy of.

2- No, the hierarchs are not angels and are not infallable. But that does not mean to bring false allegations to the table to cover your impotence and insult millions of Orthodox in Egypt by insulting their hierarchs.

يهوذا كان من التلاميذ ال12
وباع نفسة للشيطان وهو الذى تلقى التعليم من المسيح نفسة

Amazing display of your knowledge. Yes, and ??? What should we conclude from such a great revelation ?

بطرس صخرة الأيمان أنكر المسيح
فهل أى رجل دين مسيحى أعظم من بطرس

Yes, he did. Did you see St.John the Evangelist trash him or St.Andrew spitting in his face? Did you even see the Lord punishing St.Peter, in any way, or bringing him back with love ? To my knowledge, you are not God, and as long as the Holy Synod are not tampering with Orthodox Faith and not tolerating any heresy, they are lawful.
When did they take any disgraceful action in religion or
otherwise?

And by the way, St.Peter is not the rock of faith, a fundamental error that cannot go unnoticed.

اما ان البابا شايف الموضوع من فوق وأحنا شايفينه من تحت أعتقد ان دة كلام مغلوط

What ?

الموضوع مفهوش فوق وتحت الحق واضح يأبيض ياأسود
و ليكن كلامكم نعم نعم لا لا

Great. Where exactly did you find fault at the position of ??His Holiness ?
Where was the "truth" violated by His Holiness ?
Why don't you go outside, with your internet courage, and try to apply this courage in reality, say in Baliana or Koshuh?

و مبرء المذنب ومذنب البرئ كلاهما مكرهة عند الرب

Yes, from your mouth I judge you.

والبابا ديسقورس وقف أمام الأمبراطورية الرومانية وعند أعتقاله أرسل أسنانة المكسرة وشعرة المنتوف الى الأسكندرية مع رسالة انه هذا هو الثمن الذى دفعة ديسقورس من أجل الحق

I am happy that you provided the story of St.Dioscoros. Pope Shenouda was similarly roughed up in the monastery, and imprisoned there and surrounded by an army, for the same reason .